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Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby salop sniper » 24 Feb 2014, 18:11

As above folks.

Am wanting to add another Daystate to my collection but always thought it would be .177.
How ever...... I have seen one that could fit the bill, the only snag is its in .22 :? I dont know how I feel about that am so used to the .177 for all my HFT and Hunting !

What are your thoughts ?
I know Si Pttaway almost exclusively uses .22 and gets some cracking kills out at some good distances ! So its go me thinking, also the heavier pellet choice for the windier nights it may be helpful. Surely its just a job of knowing aim points ?

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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby stryder5 » 24 Feb 2014, 19:16

Recent articles indicate .177 less effected by wind than .22, seems illogical I know but..............

Get a .20 you know you want to. :D
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby salop sniper » 24 Feb 2014, 19:44

At 11.5 Ft/Lb which retains the most power at 55 yards ?

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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby stryder5 » 24 Feb 2014, 20:02

.177 65% retained energy @ 55yds
.22 60% retained energy @ 55 yds

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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby salop sniper » 24 Feb 2014, 20:54

So 5% difference. Nothing to worry about then ! 8-)
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby stryder5 » 24 Feb 2014, 21:13

About 2 mildots difference in aim points tho'
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby Mantonflint » 25 Feb 2014, 07:57

A comparison between sub 12 FPE calibre's:- .177 -.20 - .22 and .22 FAC at 36 FPE:-
.177 at 11.8fpe/795fps/AA Field 8.4gn. 43 yard zero. Plus Drop at 60 yards 3.75". Retained Energy 6.0fp = 51.0 %. Mid Range +1.0"
.20 at 11.7fpe/625fps/JSB Exact 13.5gn. 43 yard zero. Plus Drop at 60 yards 6.3". Retained Energy 5.6fp = 63.0 %. Mid Range +1.82"
.22 at 11.9fpe/580fps/AA Field 15.9gn. 43 yard zero. Plus Drop at 60 yards 6.17". Retained Energy 7.7fp = 64.0 %. Mid Range +1.88"
.22 at 36.1fpe/880fps/BisleyMag 21.0gn. 43 yard zero. Plus Drop at 60 yards 3.0". Retained Energy 16.7fp = 46.0 %. Mid Range + 0.69"
Figures are approx and are intended for use as a guide only.
The 43 yard zero is the distance at which I zero my .22 FAC Ripley. I have used the same distance for the other three calibre's purely for simplicity and comparison purposes.
Mid range trajectory is at 30 yards. ;)
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby Mantonflint » 25 Feb 2014, 08:04

Further to my post above:
The near point zero for all four will be different for each rifle, averaging out around 14 yards or so.
The drop is the effective drop of the pellet expressed in inches FROM the true zero point of 43 yards to target impact at 60 yards.
The retained energy is the kinetic energy attributed to the pellet expressed in pounds/foot at the terminal point of 60 yards, the higher the figure the better.
As there is so much interest in the ballistics of the three calibre's, I have attempted to show in reasonably concise terms the differences in field performance. It could be extended to cover pellet coefficient, drift, etc, etc.
I trust that it may provide a useful aid to discussion in the "calibre wars". ;)
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby salop sniper » 25 Feb 2014, 08:40

Good to see the .22 will still have plenty of clout at 55/60 yards, just gotta learn my hold over !

May have to do some shopping :D
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Re: Would you have a .22 Sub 12 Ft/Lb

Postby CORKY » 25 Feb 2014, 15:23

@ Brian, brilliant post. I am just flicking through before dashing off to work, I will study it more carefully, feel quite justified in my .22 full length barrel Phoenix Mk 2, looking at the old girl in a new light. Girl? I don't have a name for this one... maybe Hugh, as in the gentleman I bought it from.
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